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		<title>By: Can You Guess What It Is? &#171; Nick Reynolds At Work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Can You Guess What It Is? &#171; Nick Reynolds At Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &quot;A Man With A Hammer Is Chasing Me!&quot;BBC Programme Encourages Traffic To Non BBC Website ShockWikipedia&#039;s Values Are The BBC&#039;s Values&quot;Sloppy&quot; Technology Blogging - an Editor&#039;s Dilemma      &#171; &#8220;A New Idea For How The BBC [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;A Man With A Hammer Is Chasing Me!&#8221;BBC Programme Encourages Traffic To Non BBC Website ShockWikipedia&#8217;s Values Are The BBC&#8217;s Values&#8221;Sloppy&#8221; Technology Blogging &#8211; an Editor&#8217;s Dilemma      &laquo; &#8220;A New Idea For How The BBC [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BBC Common Platform: More on the BBC and Wikipedia</title>
		<link>http://nickreynoldsatwork.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/wikipedias-values-are-the-bbcs-values/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>BBC Common Platform: More on the BBC and Wikipedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reynolds, BBC Internet blog editor, also chipped in with some words on this topic written earlier in the year. Nick says &#8220;Wikipedia&#8217;s values are the BBC&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Reynolds, BBC Internet blog editor, also chipped in with some words on this topic written earlier in the year. Nick says &#8220;Wikipedia&#8217;s values are the BBC&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BBC Common Platform: The BBC should make more effort to engage with Wikipedia</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBC Common Platform: The BBC should make more effort to engage with Wikipedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the project itself (Nick Reynolds, who knows what he&#8217;s talking about, explains why here). Semantic web advocates at the BBC are busy building quite deep links into Wikipedia at the API [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the project itself (Nick Reynolds, who knows what he&#8217;s talking about, explains why here). Semantic web advocates at the BBC are busy building quite deep links into Wikipedia at the API [...]</p>
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		<title>By: R. Titus</title>
		<link>http://nickreynoldsatwork.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/wikipedias-values-are-the-bbcs-values/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Titus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nick, this is a great post. It&#039;s more than a dialogue, which feels quite legal and somehow steering towards conflict resolutions (&quot;the parties entered into a dialogue to settle their claims&quot;) 

We need to engage with our audience, have a conversation - and like all good conversations, we should talk sometimes, other times we should just listen - most of all - we should demonstrate, as any good communications consultant will tell you - that we&#039;ve heard, understood and perhaps changed our behavior as a result of that ongoing discussion. 

Lastly, I think we DO need to better engage with the audience - it&#039;s called Interactive Media for God&#039;s sakes.

/remove&#039;s soapbox - whew I feel better, feel free to moderate/delete.

best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick, this is a great post. It&#8217;s more than a dialogue, which feels quite legal and somehow steering towards conflict resolutions (&#8220;the parties entered into a dialogue to settle their claims&#8221;) </p>
<p>We need to engage with our audience, have a conversation &#8211; and like all good conversations, we should talk sometimes, other times we should just listen &#8211; most of all &#8211; we should demonstrate, as any good communications consultant will tell you &#8211; that we&#8217;ve heard, understood and perhaps changed our behavior as a result of that ongoing discussion. </p>
<p>Lastly, I think we DO need to better engage with the audience &#8211; it&#8217;s called Interactive Media for God&#8217;s sakes.</p>
<p>/remove&#8217;s soapbox &#8211; whew I feel better, feel free to moderate/delete.</p>
<p>best</p>
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		<title>By: chris sizemore</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris sizemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at the risk of oversimplifying the problem you&#039;ve posed, perhaps you just store the MMOG conversations as text in a wiki, and then add topic clustering, NLP search, and semantic navigation extraction over that content. then, when a question is asked in the MMOG, there&#039;s a pretty good chance of surfacing &amp; navigating to the answer automatically.

however, philosophically, i&#039;m not sure this is the point of MMOGs? the same question is being asked and answered zillions of times in &quot;real life&quot; too -- do we or don&#039;t we want this type of &quot;realism&quot; in our games?

thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at the risk of oversimplifying the problem you&#8217;ve posed, perhaps you just store the MMOG conversations as text in a wiki, and then add topic clustering, NLP search, and semantic navigation extraction over that content. then, when a question is asked in the MMOG, there&#8217;s a pretty good chance of surfacing &amp; navigating to the answer automatically.</p>
<p>however, philosophically, i&#8217;m not sure this is the point of MMOGs? the same question is being asked and answered zillions of times in &#8220;real life&#8221; too &#8212; do we or don&#8217;t we want this type of &#8220;realism&#8221; in our games?</p>
<p>thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: RobBole</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobBole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly me too...and I am asking the same questions, so I am happy to share some answers from very clever people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly me too&#8230;and I am asking the same questions, so I am happy to share some answers from very clever people.</p>
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		<title>By: nickreynoldsatwork</title>
		<link>http://nickreynoldsatwork.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/wikipedias-values-are-the-bbcs-values/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>nickreynoldsatwork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blimey! That&#039;s too tricky a question for me... but I will ask someone I know who may have some thoughts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey! That&#8217;s too tricky a question for me&#8230; but I will ask someone I know who may have some thoughts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RobBole</title>
		<link>http://nickreynoldsatwork.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/wikipedias-values-are-the-bbcs-values/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>RobBole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the enthusiasm!  I was recently on a panel with Sue Gardner, the Executive Director of Wikipedia and was struck that she came from a news background at Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC), so it will be interesting to see how she continues to guide that organization.

With that being said, from a practical user perspective Wikipedia offers me two positive experiences: one, as a reference source for almost anything imaginable; and two, as a place to get a unique view of breaking news.

These are very powerful tools to enhance the BBC, or any other project, but I think that they two have limitations that are not full expressions of public broadcasting.  They are in effect, alternative forms of the same thing.

Nigel I know that your point in the post was about how to make the BBC more permeable and more democratic (even as &quot;editorial voice&quot; was given high marks for the distinctiveness in market), but while a perhaps a huge step, still seems like a not a full flowering of the thinking.

I know that there are wonderful, high concept projects around community memory (I believe the Long Now Foundation in SF has done some work in this area, but am still exploring.), but nothing that has resulted in practical tools that help consumers to turn knowledge into action.

I recently joined a massively multiplayer online game to test out how crowds manage themselves.  Apart from now being addicted, the ability to manage hundreds of live conversations is great.  There are self-contained rules, cultural norms that are permeable that allow for new members to join and participate, etc.  But it has no memory as the same question is answered and answered and answered.

On the other hand, Wikipedia - for the occasional user, that is the normal user - is all about memory.  Yes, it is not crystal, but for someone who does not actively participate it is pretty close to glass.

How can we mash together Wikipedia with MMOG that results in active engagement and molding as the conversation flows, but the output being an indexable/discoverable community memory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the enthusiasm!  I was recently on a panel with Sue Gardner, the Executive Director of Wikipedia and was struck that she came from a news background at Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC), so it will be interesting to see how she continues to guide that organization.</p>
<p>With that being said, from a practical user perspective Wikipedia offers me two positive experiences: one, as a reference source for almost anything imaginable; and two, as a place to get a unique view of breaking news.</p>
<p>These are very powerful tools to enhance the BBC, or any other project, but I think that they two have limitations that are not full expressions of public broadcasting.  They are in effect, alternative forms of the same thing.</p>
<p>Nigel I know that your point in the post was about how to make the BBC more permeable and more democratic (even as &#8220;editorial voice&#8221; was given high marks for the distinctiveness in market), but while a perhaps a huge step, still seems like a not a full flowering of the thinking.</p>
<p>I know that there are wonderful, high concept projects around community memory (I believe the Long Now Foundation in SF has done some work in this area, but am still exploring.), but nothing that has resulted in practical tools that help consumers to turn knowledge into action.</p>
<p>I recently joined a massively multiplayer online game to test out how crowds manage themselves.  Apart from now being addicted, the ability to manage hundreds of live conversations is great.  There are self-contained rules, cultural norms that are permeable that allow for new members to join and participate, etc.  But it has no memory as the same question is answered and answered and answered.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Wikipedia &#8211; for the occasional user, that is the normal user &#8211; is all about memory.  Yes, it is not crystal, but for someone who does not actively participate it is pretty close to glass.</p>
<p>How can we mash together Wikipedia with MMOG that results in active engagement and molding as the conversation flows, but the output being an indexable/discoverable community memory?</p>
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